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McCain, Hagee, Hitler and God

Well guys, McCain certainly has stepped in it this time, kinda like so many people feel Obama did, not too long ago.

I won’t lie. I am downright tickled.

Seems McCain’s good buddy and staunch supporter Rev. Hagee is of the belief that the Holocaust was God’s will. He says God sent Hitler to perpetrate the Holocaust cuz the Jews weren’t moving to Israel, and the Lord was not happy about it.


According to The Huffington Post, Hagee says, “God sent a hunter. A hunter is someone with a gun and he forces you. Hitler was a Hunter. And the Bible says — Jeremiah writing — ‘They shall hunt them from every mountain and from every hill and from the holes of the rocks’, meaning there’s no place to hide”.

Ohhh… I see.
So it was all a ploy? A Divinely, well thought out plot to bring the Jews home? 

That’s good to know- cuz all this time I was thinking the Holocaust was nothing but a horrific tragedy, perpetrated by a psychotic madman (and his flock of sheep-followers) who hated Jewish people, non-white people, Catholics, and hell, just about everyone else too.

Guess what the Right Rev Hagee is trying to say is that there’s way more to it than that…

Our Lord had a plan.

Millions upon millions of innocent people were tortured to death, but it’s all good, cuz it brought the Jewish people back where they belong.

I was about to be offended by such horrific claims, but came across this next quote in the nick of time… Hagee says I shouldn’t take offense at all, because “I didn’t write it, Jeremiah wrote it. It was the truth and it is the truth. How did it happen? Because God allowed it to happen. Why did it happen? Because God said my top priority for the Jewish people is to get them to come back to the land of Israel.”

Ok, in that case, I won’t blame Hagee for his words… but I need to have a talk with this Jeremiah cat.

McCain, by the way, has now decided it wasn’t such a good idea to actively seek the Right Rev’s endorsement after all. He is, however, still glad to have it.

I wonder how this is gonna affect the Jewish vote… some Jewish people feel Obama’s a little too soft on all issues Israel… I gotta say, doesn’t really look like the alternative is shaping up to look so hot either.

Hagee has since apologized for his remarks and meanwhile…

I may have just become an atheist.



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7 thoughts on “McCain, Hagee, Hitler and God

  1. True that McCain didn’t sit in this guy’s church for 20 years… but these comments were originally made by Hagee during a sermon way back in the ’90s… and yet McCain still actively sought Hagee’s endorsement for his current presidential bid.

    So from where I sit, either McCain is so much of an endorsement-whore that he never bothered to check out the folks’ whose blessing he seeks, or… he agrees with Hagee’s statements.

    Either way, not a man I can respect.

  2. Now matter which candidate wins here, they will face certain realities in the world. I am not in a position to say one would be better than the other, regardless, as my job prohibits me from expressing any thoughts on the matter.
    I DO say, though, let’s see what happens. Better to judge a man on his actions than on the words of others….

  3. I agree it is better to judge a man on his actions, and that’s precisely what I am doing. Hagee’s endorsement of McCain was something McCain actively sought… it was a very public action that he took.

    My concern is, what possessed him to do such a thing? I’m just having a difficult time believing that McCain’s “people” weren’t charged with thoroughly researching the man whose endorsement he so publicly sought.

    McCain says this situation is different than the Obama v. Wright scenario, and I would say in one important way, he’s right- Obama, unlike McCain with Hagee, never tried to gain Wright’s endorsement of him. Yet so many people labeled Obama guilty by association.

    Why shouldn’t McCain face even tougher criticism? He publicly sought this man’s support… he was not “lumped” into the Hagee camp simply because they know each other. Should he not be asked to explain such actions?

  4. The problem here is that the world is trying to analyze Pastor Hagee’s comments using the world’s perspective. But he is preaching about the God’s perspective and God’s perspective is not limited to our lives on earth but rather his time frame is eternity.

    No one, not even Pastor Hagee if you really careful consider what he is saying, is applauding what happened in the Holocaust. It was a terrible thing. But it happened. Obviously, God could have stopped it but He chose not to. Thus, for whatever reason, God allowed it to happen. We as humans may have trouble understanding this, but God has His reasons. Terrible things happen to people all the time. We do not live in a world that is free from awful things happening. However, that does not say we embrace and applaud those things, but they do happen.

    The shame here is that these comments are being misrepresented and/or misunderstood by people cannot or will not consider it from a Biblical perspective. I cannot say that everything Hagee says is right. The Bible is the standard and if Hagee’s comments are not supported by the Bible, then they are invalid. However, I fail to see an justification in how some are interpreting these comments.

    I find it sad that McCain continues to distance himself from conservatives. If he was going to back away from Hagee, perhaps he should have done so on a point that may not have been Biblically supported. However, he chooses to do it on a misrepresented part of a sermon, thus making me question his ability to see things from a Biblical perspective as well. Recently, he was speaking in favor of global warming. Just why should a conservative vote for him? The only justification I can see is that the alternative is so dangerous to the future of this republic, that conservative have to hold our nose, vote for McCain, and then battle him to prevent him putting in too much of his liberal agenda once he is in office.

  5. I believe in free-will, and I believe humans are therefore responsible and accountable for their own actions.

    God did not sanction or recruit Hitler or the Nazi’s to do anything… could He have stopped it from happening? Sure, but God allows us to make our own choices, and that includes filth such as Hitler… as a result, God allows us to suffer the consequences of those choices… regardless of what they may be. I don’t believe the Holocaust was part of God’s divine plan, just as I don’t believe 9/11 was His doing, nor the recent earthquake in China… or anything else for that matter.

    God’s heart broke to see so many of His people dying. He, however, loves us enough to allow us the freedom to live our lives… all the while knowing many people will take advantage of such freedom… resulting in untold numbers of tragedies.

    That’s why He sacrificed his son- to save us, and to allow us to be forgiven. He knew we were a flawed bunch of people… and He still offered salvation.

    I don’t know about McCain distancing himself from conservatives, I tend to see him running towards them headfirst… that is, until someone says something horribly offensive, as we saw with Rev. Hagee. Personally, I hope he continues to distance himself from those who spew such nonsense.

    Thanks for weighin’ in… tho now I need a nap. I haven’t gotten all-the-way spiritual like that in a while. Exhausting, I tell ya.

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