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Abortion Docs, Jew Haters, Extremism and the GOP

Let’s just jump right in, cuz I really do have a lot to say.

Today I have right-wing extremism on my mind… something I’ve been mulling over lately… and something that truly makes my blood run cold.

It’s terrifying.

… And it’s escalating quickly.

Since Barack Obama descended on the scene with his eye turned to the presidency, we have seen this country’s lunatics come out in full force.

During the campaign we heard about assassination plots, accusations of Obama’s false ties to Muslim terror groups, chants and rants at Republican rallies calling for his death and accusations of treason.

Talk about foreshadowing… we all saw it unfolding. Most of us understood, upon witnessing the GOP presidential candidate and his running mate’s unwillingness to condemn the behavior (until it was much too late, that is), that the worst was yet to come.

We were right.

Now, within the past couple of weeks, we have learned of the brutal murders of Dr. George Tiller, an American abortion doctor and of another fellow American- a security guard named Steven T. Johns– at the Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC.

Both men were murdered by right-wing extremists- Tiller was killed by a well known pro-life advocate, Johns died at the hands of an 88 year old white supremacist and anti-semite.

The killers have been charged with murder, but inexplicably, neither men have been charged with any counts of terrorism. If these terrible acts of violence against Americans do not qualify as domestic terrorism, nothing does.

Perhaps as terrifying as the crazy people perpetrating this violence are the powerful “main stream” conservatives behind them, the people who in essence stir the pot… and then sit back, showing false horror, as it all comes to a boil. These are people you’ve all heard of… many of you even support their political and religious beliefs…

… Millions of you voted for at least two of them to become your next president and vice president, and you allow the others into your homes and cars by way of television and radio each and every day.

You know exactly who I am referring to.

John McCain, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly and friends did not single-handedly cause the recent bloodshed on American soil by right-wing extremists.

They did, however, incite much of the ugliness we see today, and those that didn’t incite it, stood back and did nothing to cause the boiling pot to simmer, or cool off.

As a result, it has boiled over.

Now that these so-called leaders have stirred and heated up what I’ll call the “Crazy Pot”- essentially giving psychotic people a free pass- morally, at least- to terrorize and kill, they sit back, feigning shock and confusion… doing their very best to distract us from the facts- the fact that they are contributing to a violently divided nation.

It’s almost as if in realizing that their own party is falling apart, they have made the decision to fight- not to save the GOP or our very nation- but to take every last one of us down with them.

I do not understand the lack of outrage.

Where is the anger from my fellow Americans, both Conservative and Liberal alike?

I posted a piece on this site yesterday about David Letterman’s inappropriate comments regarding Willow Palin, Sarah Palin’s 14 year old daughter. I received hundreds of hits on that particular post alone, and the moral outrage seen in my comments section was mind-boggling.

Letterman’s joke was idiotic, and it wasn’t funny… but he didn’t kill anyone.

Why are people more enraged that he, a late night talk show host who makes his living by telling off-color jokes, made a stupid comment, than they are about the fact that two Americans were brutally murdered by politically motivated right-wing nutjobs, mere days apart?

It appears that certain conservatives in this country are so busy being pissed off at those who do not share their same beliefs, that they have missed the forest for the trees.

People are being murdered, and last time I checked, regardless of political or religious affiliation, Americans generally agree that murder is reprehensible. So many of these same people would willingly lynch David Letterman for telling his stupid jokes… while simultaneously looking the other way when members of their own party are killing others.

Prior to Dr. Tiller’s death, for example, Bill O’Reilly was igniting viewers’ anger by referring to him repeatedly as a “mass murderer”, “Tiller the Baby Killer”, and claiming that his abortion clinic was a “death mill”. After Tiller’s murder, O’Reilly mostly toned back his hateful rhetoric- even acknowledging that Dr. Tiller was breaking no laws, but did not address- not a single time- all the right wingers out there that dared celebrate the horrific death of a fellow American.

He showed no real outrage at this violent act of terrorism.

He simply did a lot of back-pedaling, hoping that in doing so, America would not see his (inadvertant) role in this tragedy.

O’Reilly did not shoot Dr. Tiller, but he helped incite the violence and hatred that ultimately led to his death.

This is a disturbingly common trend, and it is downright horrifying.

If half of the people who expressed such outrage at, say, Letterman’s dumb jokes, showed that sort of contempt over the events that led to these two dead Americans, our country would perhaps be in slightly less dire straits.

How disgustingly terrifying.


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19 thoughts on “Abortion Docs, Jew Haters, Extremism and the GOP

  1. I don’t see any reason for outrage at aborting George since he’s aborted 60, 000 himself. What comes around, goes around. Fuck him. Steven Johns? Terrible. As terrible as every other murder that has taken place over the last few days. David Letterman is a smartass prick. Outraged? no.

    1. Hi davisoftheapes1-

      I don’t condone violence of any sort.

      I agree Bush made a huge clusterfuck (pardon my language) of this country’s state of affairs, and personally would not be opposed to witnessing his being tried for war crimes, among other things.

      Aborting him, though? A little extreme, and completely contrary to what I envision this country to be all about.

      I can’t in good conscious condone the death of one while condemning the death of another- regardless of said person’s political views.

      Extremism, regardless of the party affiliation, or reason, is dangerous.

      I do thank you for weighing in though!

  2. Where is the anger from my fellow Americans, both Conservative and Liberal alike?

    I am outraged at this vicious murder. I hope he is given a fair trial and, if found guilty, punished for his murder. I would hope for a public execution, but that is just me. Please, from this time on, refrain from asserting that no conservative has expressed outrage for this brutal act.

    I don’t see how he becomes a Right Wing or Conservative Republican leader or follower as the GOP neither advocates, nor tolerates such people. You have attempted to attach him to a number of talk show hosts you hate. But I believe he comes more from the Liberal camp where folks act rather than pushing their agendas through legitimate legal venues.

    As I know you will never admit that Republicans have always been opposed to politically motivated murder, I will leave the last word to you.

  3. Hi C Haza

    The problem I see here is extreme actions from both sides. Where was all the outrage when movies where being made about killing Bush? Where was all the outrage when a soldier was nearly beat to death by anti war activist? People need to keep things in perspective. There is a big problem with extremism on both sides. The Nazi whacko that shot up the Holocaust museum was clearly not right in the head. To call him right wing is not accurate in my opinion. A large aspect of Nazi ideology includes socialism which is opposite the right. Even today the neo nazi groups are socialist in nature. Also, the Christian right supports Israel and the Jewish people while the far left supports the Middle East countries which seek to destroy it. I’m not saying the far left wants to destroy Israel, I’m just saying they support countries that do.

    As far as abortion is concerned, I personally believe what he was doing was murder. Killing him was not the answer in America and it was wrong. Late term abortions are disgusting in so many ways. To cut a baby into pieces and throw it into the garbage, who could do that? A lot of other people feel it was murder to, this is why it is hard for them to feel outraged, that doesn’t make it right but it is human nature. If a serial killer was hunted down by one of his victims fathers and killed. That father would get a minor sentence compared to others that murdered.

    To sum it up, extremist people are coming out of the woodwork everywhere. Many of the extremist militias don’t support any government rule. Wait until one of those groups does something, it will be blamed on the right.

    There is something you should read that may change your perspective on abortion.
    Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in America. 78% of their clinics are in minority communities. Blacks make up 12% of the population, but 35% of the abortions in America. Are we being targeted? Isn’t that genocide? We are the only minority in America that is on the decline in population. If the current trend continues, by 2038 the black vote will be insignificant. Did you know that the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, was a devout racist who created the Negro Project designed to sterilize unknowing black women and others she deemed as undesirables of society? The founder of Planned Parenthood said, “Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated.” Is her vision being fulfilled today?

    Margaret Sanger’s vision was eugenics.

    This website has some photos about information on Margaret Sanger, abortion and genocide. I haven’t went through every page but I encourage anyone who does not completely understand the issues to educate themselves on what’s really happening.

    1. Hi SpiritofTruth-

      Where are you getting your information about Margaret Sanger?

      Please tell me there are other sources you looked into besides just the website.

      For example, Margaret Sanger, while a champion of birth control, and a supporter of a woman’s right to choose IF and WHEN she would like to start a family, was actually Pro-life.

      She did not support abortion whatsoever.

      In a chapter from Woman and the New Race (1920) entitled “Contraceptives or Abortion?,” Sanger wrote, “While there are cases where even the law recognizes an abortion as justifiable if recommended by a physician, I assert that the hundreds of thousands of abortions performed in America each year are a disgrace to civilization.”[30]

      Roger Streitmatter has claimed that Sanger’s opposition to abortion stemmed primarily from a concern for the dangers to the mother rather than moral issues.[31] Nonetheless, in her 1938 autobiography, Sanger notes that her 1916 opposition to abortion was based on the taking of life: “To each group we explained what contraception was; that abortion was the wrong way—no matter how early it was performed it was taking life; that contraception was the better way, the safer way—it took a little time, a little trouble, but was well worth while in the long run, because life had not yet begun.”[32]

      I’m not saying she perfect, nor am I saying she wasn’t a racist… but that website is WAAAAYYYY out there.

      Sanger did support the “Negro Project”… but the website you reference here clearly has NO IDEA what the Negro Project actually was.

      The Negro Project was chaired W.E.B. Du Boise, and its entire purpose was to expose black women in the south to birth control.

      Some believe it was Margaret Sanger’s support of Eugenics that made her support the building of clinics in poor, rural, black areas- a way to keep black women from giving birth to feeble minded, idiotic children that were unsupportable. Others believe the clinics were a godsend, as without them, poor blacks had no access to birth control, and considering the poverty they already found themselves in, embraced the opportunity to take control of their own reproductive decisions.

      Regardless of Sanger’s motives, and I am not claiming them to be pure, she was not forcefully sterilizing women. Not by a long shot. She gave women access to birth control who until then, had no other options available to them.

      Is giving access to birth control options the same thing forced sterilization? Hell no, it isn’t, and yet that is exactly what would have you believe.

      Where I believe the site becomes confused is in the simple fact that YES blacks have been forcefully sterilized in the past. However, it was NEVER the Negro Project that was behind such horrific behavior.

      Sanger, it seems, very likely was a racist.- at least early in her life. Adding insult to injury, she was also a supporter of eugenics.

      Eugenics, in my opinion, is a form of ethnic cleansing, with the goal of stopping those of weaker minds (“morons”, to quote Sanger) to reproduce, therefore creating a stronger human race.

      While she never spoke of eugenics in conjunction with speaking of blacks, nor did she specifically advocate applying euginics to black people, she did speak out in support of the process itself- though broadly, not targeting a single race- at a time when african americans were especially vulnerable to other racists within society.

      She never specifically said much about black people early in her life, but she also never spoke out against prejudice until the 1940s, as a middle aged woman.

      Obviously, Margaret Sanger was a very flawed individual. That fact, however, does not lessen the very real- and very positive- impact she has had on women’s sexual rights. She was a pioneer of birth control, risking her very freedom on more than one occassion to educate women about their options, and provide access to choices we had never had in the past.

      In Sanger’s time, a topic like birth control was deemed pornographic. Just by attempting to educate women about the choices available to them landed her in jail for the dissemination of obscene material.

      It is important to research all of who Margaret Sanger was- not just the good she did- as a fellow human, she was brilliant, gifted and terribly flawed all at once. None of that lessens her contributions.

      George Washington was a racist- and a slave owner, as was Thomas Jefferson and countless others. Christopher Columbus was a mass murderer, Abraham Lincoln didn’t give a damn about slavery- only about doing whatever was necessary to keep the U.S. together as a sovereign nation, and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. couldn’t keep his dick in his pants to save his life.

      All of these men made HUGE contributions to our country, and our world… all of them are heroes in their own way… and all of them had absolutely horrifying, massive flaws, when held to the more open-minded standards of today’s society.

      We do not take our forefathers’ contributions from them because they were racist. We still celebrate national holidays in their honor, many of their faces are implanted on our currency.

      I would go as far as to say that while Margaret Sanger may very well have been a racist, her passion, her goal, had nothing to do with her racial views- her purpose was to help women the world over have access to birth control.


      Others, like George Washington, for example, spent his life claiming to be in sole support of a nation in which all men are created equal… and yet simultaneously built his existence around doing the exact opposite- promoting racisim, supporting slavery, etc.

      Which is worse?

      Finally, it’s important to keep in mind the fact that as far as abortion is concerned, Margaret Sanger’s views were actually much more in line with yours than mine.

      Thanks for weighing in!

    1. @SpiritofTruth-

      I would assert that there are many reasons for a higher-than-normal abortion rate among blacks, none of which stem from a secret genocide plot on the part of Planned Parenthood- just as I would never support an argument that claims the Death Penalty is a form of black genocide, considering the disproportionate number of blacks who are charged with capital crimes in this country.

      Many Planned Parenthood locations are found in the neighborhoods in which their services are most needed and most accessible.

      If these clinics were mostly located out in the boonies, in suburban white America, I’m certain people would be crying foul because of the lack of ease of transportation. They’d be more difficult to get to, so pro-choice activists like myself would be hollerin’ that there’s a conspiracy to keep minorities from having access to quality care.

      Besides, could you imagine the uproar a Planned Parenthood clinic would cause in an old rich white community?

      Unfortunately, this website, and others like it, are damaging the black community, even as they claim to want to help.

      The problem with super-high abortion rates among blacks has nothing to do with a vast conspiracy amongst the followers of the long-dead Margaret Sanger (who was pro-life, I might add).

      First and foremost, studies show, regardless of race, those who are impoverished and uneducated are more likely to get pregnant out of wedlock.

      Wanna solve the world’s over-population problem? Cure poverty and educate the masses. How many utlra-educated PHD couples do you know who have more than just a few kids? Or better yet, how many of them have any kids at all?

      The black community, unlike its white counterpart, is struggling with vast multi-generational poverty. Some of this is residual from Jim Crowe and slavery… some of it is a direct result of people not taking responsibility for their own lives, choosing instead to blame “the Man” for holding them down.

      There is a stigma within the black community, one that consists of blacks holding each other back, not encouraging one another to succeed, to break the cycle of poverty and abuse.

      Unless of course you are a black man with unusual athletic ability or musical talent. That’s different.

      I saw this first-hand within my ex-husband’s family. He has 2 younger brothers, both of which possessed amazing abilities on the football field. They each secured scholarships to college to play football… and they each lost their scholarships due to bad grades. My ex’s father paid for each of them to finish school, and both have since graduated.

      My ex, however, was not an athlete. When he wanted to go to college, his family refused to support him. Without a sport to play on the field, what’s the point of college? This truly was their argument- I swear I’m not trying to be funny. They told my ex to forego college and “get a job”. If he wasn’t making enough money, education was not the answer- a second job was.

      Neither of his parents went to college themselves, and despite living just above the poverty line for their entire lives, that was just fine with them.

      Coming from where I come from, the idea that his parents- especially after having had to struggle so much themselves- did not support his attempt at continuing education was absolutely mind blowing.

      So many blacks are taught- by both society and each other- that they are nothing. They will never amount to anything, so don’t bother getting your hopes up and trying to succeed…. it’s not going to happen.

      You can’t be disappointed if you have no expectations to begin with, right?

      There is an epidemic in the black community- poverty, fatherless homes, etc.

      Many women grew up with a mother who had to work 3 jobs just to put food on the table, and no father whatsoever.

      Between mom’s extra shifts at the diner and an absent father, they are desperate to find someone who loves them… someone to pay attention to them. They meet “Mr. Right” and lay down with him… thinking they’ve finally found that love they so desperately crave… only to have “Mr. Right” walk out the door as soon as the going gets tough, and life begins to happen.

      Perhaps they find themselves pregnant, and no Mr. Right around to help out. I guess we can’t blame Mr. Right, because statistics show he likely never had a father around to teach him how to be present and responsible either.

      It’s a vicious cycle.

      As we all know, history repeats itself.

      I believe that there are a lot of things that factor into the plight of african americans in today’s society. Some things are very difficult for people like you and I to understand… but some things simply require a little compassion and open-mindedness.

      I do, however, believe in personal responsibility. I have never made the claim that blacks have it easy in this country, but I refuse to allow that fact alone to be an excuse for my daughters to fail.

      Failure is not an option.

      Not when I’m trying to raise two beautiful black women myself… and I take it personally when I see fellow african americans making excuses for not raising their children. Those other folks’ sons are the people my daughters will have to choose from when it’s time for them to pick a mate and settle down.

      I have a personal stake in seeing the black community picks itself up, dusts itself off, and stops making excuses for why we are more poor, less educated, less responsible than the average white person.

      To see a site like providing yet another bogus excuse for high black abortion rates- rather than educating people about birth control, and teaching responsibility, is absolutely enraging.

      It is not Margaret Sanger or Planned Parenthood’s fault that black women (and hell, girls) are getting knocked up in record numbers.

      It is OUR fault.

      1. HEY
        there are more than enought examples in the military of successful people…who happen to be people of color.
        I say “SO WHAT” to race, I say, DELIVER. Go to school, get an education and do SOMETHING with your life. We seem to agree about such stuff.
        The best example of a person making it was the recently promoted two-star General. Three Masters Degrees and two foriegn languages later, he impresses all he leads. Oh, I forgot to mention, he is black… so what… no one notices or cares here in the military. All we care about are results, and MAN does he bring that to the table. MG Jackson, look him up, is a great man who happens to be black. THis should be the role model for many in our country, not some athlete with a drug or other problem…

  4. It is interesting to me that when most people find out Margaret Sanger’s true motivation behind abortion, they think that because she is racist, she must have been conservative. Many don’t realize she was an avowed socialist. Look hard and you will find the truth on her. I point her out because she is a perfect example of labels are misleading. She did not consider African Americans human. This is a hard revelation for some people but, one that needs to be realized. I believe that the elite within the Democratic party are exploiting the black and minority population for their own gains. Remember that historically the Democratic party fought against black rights. History reveals that every piece of racist legislation that was ever passed against African Americans, was initiated by the members of the Democratic Party.
    History reveals that the Republican Party was formed in 1854 to abolish slavery and challenge other racist legislative acts initiated by the Democratic Party.

    I can cite specific examples if you like. I’m trying to keep my post down though since I forgot to include some things in my first post.
    Here is a short list:

    Congressional records show that Democrats were opposed to passing the following laws that were introduced by Republicans to achieve civil rights for African Americans:

    Civil Rights Act 1866
    Reconstruction Act of 1867
    Freedman Bureau Extension Act of 1866
    Enforcement Act of 1870
    Force Act of 1871
    Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871
    Civil Rights Act of 1875
    Civil Rights Act of 1957
    Civil Rights Act of 1960

    And during the 60’s many Democrats fought hard to defeat the

    1964 Civil Rights Act
    1965 Voting Rights Acts
    1972 Equal Employment Opportunity Act

    Democrats promoted it through various means:

    Racist Legislation
    Terrorist Organizations
    Negative Media Communications
    Bias Education
    Relentless Intimidation
    And Flawed Adjudication.

    There are still members of the KKK serving as Democrats today.

    I know thats a blast of information. I only ask that people please read through it all. I am not a Republican or Democrat, I am very concerned, thats all.

    1. Hi SpiritofTruth-

      Your comment contains a lot of good information.

      I do think it is very important to note the major shift that has occured in the Democrat vs. Republican parties over the years.

      No one would argue that the Dixie-crats of the Civil War/Jim Crowe/Civil Rights era is the same Democratic Party we see today.

      Similarly, I would note that the Republican party of today bares no resemblance to the Republican part of the Abraham Lincoln years.

      The unfortunate fact of the matter is that in spite of all of the progress seen in this country, both sides- conservatives and liberals alike, have a lot of ugliness to contend with.

      In fact, that was largely my point of the post. In this case I chose what I see as right-wing extremism as an example, but like you said, extremism, in all its forms is dangerous, and neither side is exempt.

      All I ask is for the phony outrage to stop.

      So many of the very people who feigned outrage at David Letterman’s stupid jokes either condoned or refused to outright condemn the brutal murder of Dr. George Tiller… those that did express some small amount of disappointment in his murder felt the need to justify their lack of outrage by reminding the world of his profession.

      As if that justifies the actions that took his life.

      My issue is more on the hypocrisy, though I do see your point, that in so many minds Tiller was a brutal murderer himself… which makes it hard to muster up too much outrage on his behalf.

      I think that’s sad, but I do think you’re right.

  5. “I accepted an invitation to talk to the women’s branch of the Ku Klux Klan…I saw through the door dim figures parading with banners and illuminated crosses…I was escorted to the platform, was introduced, and began to speak…In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose. A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered.” (Margaret Sanger: An Autobiography, P.366)

    At a March,1925 international birth control gathering in New York City, a speaker warned of the menace posed by the “black” and “yellow” peril. The man was not a Nazi or Klansman; he was Dr. S. Adolphus Knopf, a member of Margaret Sanger’s American Birth Control League (ABCL), which along with other groups eventually became known as Planned Parenthood.

    Margaret Sanger – Founder of Planned Parenthood “. . .we prefer the policy of immediate sterilizarion, of making sure that parenthood is ‘ absolutely prohibited ‘ to the feeble-minded.” The Pivot of Civilization, p102

    “In the past few years there has been a frantic effort on the part of Planned Parenthood ideologues to revise their own history. Much of the effort has been waged in an attempt to distance the organization and it’s founder, Margaret Sanger, from charges of radical racial bigotry. Mike Richmond draws from a selection of authors to demonstrate that Sanger and Planned Parenthood are rooted in eugenics, and have earned a despised place in history along with Adolf Hitler and the German Third Reich were.” from “Life Advocate, Jan.-Feb., 1998, Vol. XII, Number 10,

    “To give certain dysgenic groups in our population their choice of segregation [concentration camps] or sterilization”, advocated the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger in April 1932 (“A Plan For Peace”, Birth Control Review; see ‘appendix’ for this full unabridged seminal article). Which country pioneered forced sterilization in the 20th century, Germany or the United States of America? The German program began in January 1934, but the U.S. state of Indiana passed a forced sterilization law (for mental defectives) in 1907 (when Adolf Hitler was 18 years old). Before the German program began, at least seventeen U.S. states (including California) had ‘forced sterilization’ laws. Before 1930 there were 200-600 forced sterilizations per year (in the U.S.A.) but in the 1930s the rate jumped to 2,000-4,000 per year. (1)

    “The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”
    Margaret Sanger (editor). The Woman Rebel, Volume I, Number 1. Reprinted in Woman and the New Race. New York: Brentanos Publishers, 1922.

    “Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race.”
    Margaret Sanger. Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.

    “We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”
    Margaret Sanger’s December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255 Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Original source: Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College, North Hampton, Massachusetts. Also described in Linda Gordon’s Woman’s Body, Woman’s Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America. New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976.

    “Give dysgenic groups [people with ‘bad genes’] in our population their choice of segregation or [compulsory] sterilization.”
    Margaret Sanger, April 1932 Birth Control Review.

    “The campaign for birth control is not merely of eugenic value, but is practically identical with the final aims of eugenics.”
    Margaret Sanger. “The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda.” Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.

    That is a lot of direct quotes from her. I agree that by educating women on how their bodies work, she was empowering them. She also lived through what is called the First Wave of Feminism. (Henslin, 2007)

    Our history as a whole is full of contradictions. I think in general we need to be careful about revising history to make it more palatable. Do I believe there is some massive conspiracy in Planned Parenthood to commit genocide? Of course not. I do believe the founder had two faces. I don’t believe she was dealing with some large personality flaw. Most people even today are racist to one degree or another. Today racism is generally more overt in nature but, it is still there. I had a black friend explain to me one time the difference between change on the table and change in the hand. Change on the table and making a person reach across the counter is a form of overt racism. In the early 1900s, racist views were not considered hardly considered racist. Many of her quotes are applied in context of todays thinking and not what she meant, essentially changing the meaning to something acceptable today.

    As far as the Republican party is concerned, I find it interesting how they have been painted into this anti black racist party.

    There where many people at the tea parties, Dems, Repub and Independents. They where protrayed as a bunch of racist rednecks in the liberal media. How is that fair?

    I honestly believe that the minority groups are being exploited by the Democratic party.

    1. Hi SpiritOfTruth-

      I don’t dispute that Margaret Sanger had a lot dispicable beliefs. I just don’t think they take away from her accomplishments when it comes to allowing women access to birth control.

      I think it’s unfair for people to discount her contribution on the basis of racism while letting the contributions of other, equally flawed (or twisted) people stand.

      I’m not suggesting we have a national holiday in her honor, I’m just saying she did some good stuff for a cause I hold very dear.

      That being said, had I ever met her in person, I’d have hated her.

      Both sides of the political spectrum exploit minorities. Both Democrats and Republicans will cry foul on issues of race when it suits them to do so, and both sides become completely silent on the subject when it’s convenient to do so.

      In politics, it’s all about the agenda… never about one’s true beliefs. In fact, you almost have to be devoid of any real beliefs to be a politician. That goes for Dems and Repubs alike. Congressional representatives have to be able to show fake outrage at racism when an unarmed black kid is shot 50 times by a plain clothes police officer in their district so that the NAACP doesn’t come calling, and then claim racism doesn’t exist at all when it’s time to duke it out over reverse discrimination- arguing that affirmative action is unnecessary.

      I am increasingly disgusted by both sides of the political spectrum. In fact, when I was at the polls back in November, I voted against every single incumbent on the ballot, for no other reason than the fact that they were incumbents. Democrat or Republican, it didn’t matter. If they were around before- and therefore helped create this clusterfuck my daughters are living in today- I voted against them.

      I’d love to be able to fire the whole damn lot of Congress and start from scratch.

      But I digress.

      When racism hampers our personal agendas it’s a bad thing, something people are usually willing to speak out against… but as long as it isn’t personally affecting us, we’re quick to turn our heads the other way, pretending it doesn’t exist.

      My problem with groups like is simply that it is a black organization giving an already crippled black community yet another excuse not to have to stand up and take personal responsibility.

      Abortion rates, crime rates, poverty rates… all of these things are rampant and disproportionately high in the black community. Rather than give an already disenchanted group of people another stupid excuse to continue playing the role of victim, why not teach empowerment and personal responsibility?

      The fact that any group of people touts such nonsense as is disgusting.

      That it is fellow blacks doing it under the pretense of empowering their brothers and sisters is truly disgusting.

      How about counseling our daughters to stop screwing anything with 3 legs just cuz he says he loves you? How about empowering women so that they can avoid finding themselves in a situation in which they may have to make a decision about whether or not to visit Planned Parenthood for an abortion, or the welfare line should they choose the opposite, and opt to keep the kid? How about having open dialogue with our children so that when, God forbid, at 15 years old she’d ready to let some schmuck in her pants, at least she’s comfortable enough to come to her mother (or other trusted adult) to get on the pill?

      When I hear of organizations such as this one, I can’t help but think it isn’t “the Man” holding black people down- it’s stupid-ass, ignorant, exploitative black people holding black people down.

      It pisses me off, if you couldn’t already tell. In fact, I may blog on that very subject.

      As for the Tea Parties, I understand what you’re saying, though it wasn’t just “liberal” media portraying the attendees in this fashion- it was “media” period. Even Fox News didn’t have a ton of overly positive things to report on the attendees. While Fox supported the cause, they filmed as many toothless, backwoods, Confederate flag flyin’ yahoos as CNN did.

      The Tea Party is just one example of the media being irresponsible in its reporting. During the election campaign, they were reporting on the Rev. Jeremiah Wright as if he was THE FACE of the United Church of Christ.

      As a baptised member of the UCC church, as the daughter of a UCC Pastor, I was personally offended by that portrayal, and know first hand that the media got it completely wrong.

      They took the example of a single whack job and painted the portrait of an entire denomination with it.

      I have long said that what we hear in the mainstream about both political parties- be it the Democrats or the Republicans- is not an accurate reflection of either group.

      Unfortunately (and due to the political climate at present, it’s the Republicans getting the brunt of it at the moment), what is presented as representative of the parties are the views of the most extreme members.

      A lot of the Republican Party’s problems right now stem from the fact that a lot of its most vocal advocates are way right of center. These people are the minority of the party… but they are the vocal minority. This creates an inaccurate, but very scary, picture of what the party stands for.

      Just as Rev. Wright does not represent the views of the vast majority of the Democratic Party (or blacks, or the UCC), the Republicans are facing similar challenges.

      I believe if a more accurate picture could emerge of what the Party truly stands for, it would go a long way towards strengthening it right now- at its most dire moment.

      What I find unfortunate is that a lot of good, decent, conservatives feel that in order to save their party they must at least act as if the vitriol (from the likes of Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and friends) is a true representation of what the GOP is all about. That is a huge mistake, as most of the conservatives I know think a lot of these far right-wingers are completely off the mark. They just aren’t willing to stand up and do anything about it.

  6. Hi C Haze,

    You make some good points on that website, their methods and the social changes needed. But you’re telling me the UCC Rev. Wright doesn’t represent the views of the UCC? Just kidding. 🙂 If I didn’t know better I would push that button. LOL

    I don’t know if you noticed at the Tea Parties. There was a few Republicans that where trying to take credit and found themselves rejected. I believe term limits and limitations on how long they are paid after that term would go a long way to correcting our political corruption.

    On Margaret Sanger, I know she is highly celebrated for what she achieved in women’s rights. I don’t think that we should reverse that. I just want people to really understand all of our history, dirty laundry and all.

    1. @SpiritOfTruth-

      I agree that we need to understand our entire history- dirty laundry and all. None of the ugliness makes our nation any less great… and in fact, makes us greater, considering what we’ve over come.

      We aren’t perfect, but considering the circumstances, we’ve made amazing steps.

      I remember in college, after years and years of the white bread version of U.S. History I’d been fed as a kid, taking a class in which we were required to read Howard Zinn’s “A People’s History of The United States”.


      If you’re not familiar, it’s a must-read. It’s the entire history of the U.S., from Columbus through the Clinton years- told solely from the perspective of minorities.

      Talk about a wake-up call.

      I didn’t walk away from reading it feeling as if my country wasn’t still the best country in the world. But I did walk away from it a little pissed off that no one had thought to share the whole truth behind my nation’s history.

      It’s important stuff!

      Oh- I’ll let that comment on the Rev. Wright slide. LOL.

      Term limits in Congress is definitely something I would support… as long as we implement my idea first- and fire every last one ’em.

  7. Thanks, I’ll put that book on my list. I’m sure I’ll learn a few things I didn’t know.

    Good talking to you

  8. @Uncle-

    Thanks for stoppin’ by! Long time no see.

    Yes, my views on race in this country- or more importantly, my views on what needs to be done in order for our black communities to thrive- don’t always win me a lot of friends from my progressive/minority friends.

    I think you hit on something very important in your comment- the lack of black role models. We seem to have very few that are not either ultra-inflammatory or part of the entertainment/sports world. Obama is a rare exception, as is Colin Powell. Why do we, as blacks (or halfricans like me) insist on only looking up to the performers?

    It would be great if more blacks could see successful people that are more mainstream. Not necessarily making millions on stage, but rather, like your example, MG Jackson. A guy who was normal like the rest of us, who busted his ass and made things happen for himself.

    There’s more to life than bling. I realize a lot of blacks know that, but it would be wonderful to have better role models who can show our youth that there are other options out there for them. It is not a narrow world anymore for a black person who wants to succeed. It can and does happen every day.

  9. About a year ago, maybe less, Bill Cosby was criticized for giving a very no-nonsense, succinct, opinion of why blacks in America are there own worst enemies. He didn’t say anything that wasn’t true, but, it ruffled a lot of feathers. People don’t like to be told that what they’re doing by choosing to not be their best, is “not best.”

    1. Hi davisoftheapes1-
      I remember all the criticism Bill Cosby got for spreading his message of personal responsibility within the black community.

      I agree with everything he said- I’ve never claimed blacks in this country have it easy, nor have I claimed that many of our challenges are completely our own fault- but we do live in times where we can look at each other and our children and say, “Failure is not an option”.

      Reparations have been made- and continue being made- in the form of the Civil Rights Act of 1968, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission and Affirmative Action.

      There are some things we simply have to do on our own.

      What can the government, or white people in general, for that matter, possibly do that will make black men stop running away from their responsibilities as fathers? Or make black women stop having multiple babies that they cannot take care of out of wedlock (or choosing abortions at alarming rates instead)?

      The answer is nothing. We have to stand up and start cleaning our own houses. The government has given us the tools, and with society’s continued commitment to a level playing field, we can do the rest on our own.

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